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Phil Smith Kia earns an F.
Expect inflated fees, surprise add-ons, or big gaps from the listing. Bring CarEdge data and be ready to walk.
- $1,540
- Doc fee
- 59%
- Dealer add-ons
$548 above FL avg
On 10 of 17 recent quotes
Moderate confidenceLighthouse Point, FLUpdated How we score dealersPart of Phil Smith Automotive Group
The full story
Why Phil Smith Kia earned this grade
Between November 2025 and October 2026, CarEdge negotiated or logged 17 verified deals with this dealership. We pulled the doc fee, the add-ons, and the gap between advertised and out-the-door price from each one. Then we graded them the way a friend in the business would: on the things that actually cost you money.
! Where to push back
3 thingsDoc fee is significantly inflated
$1,540 is $548 above the FL average of $992. That's pure margin for the dealer, not cost of service.
TipThis fee is mostly not "standard paperwork" — it's profit. Push back, or get the equivalent off the vehicle price.
Quoted add-ons show up on many deals
59% of quotes include add-ons that aren't marked optional. Across all recent quotes, add-ons average $804. Expect to see items like paint protection, nitrogen-filled tires, or VIN etching on your quote.
TipAsk which items are genuinely required and which are dealer-added. Anything not required by the manufacturer or the state is worth pushing on.
Listing price and real price disagree
Quoted prices run 14.4% above the advertised listing — roughly $5,040 extra on a $35k vehicle. That's a pattern, not a rounding error.
TipThis dealer's listing price is a marketing number, not a real one. Don't anchor to it — anchor to an out-the-door target.
17 verified OTD quotes from Phil Smith Kia
Real out-the-door worksheets, not reviews. Click “View Quote” on any row to see the price breakdown.
Recent Quotes
Verified out-the-door prices from real transactions
10 vehicle transactions — 17 individual quotes
Most Common Add-ons
At a Glance
Tips for Phil Smith Kia
- Doc fee is $548 above FL average. Ask if they'll match competitors or reduce it.
- 10 of 17 quotes included $13,675 in add-ons (Protection Plan), not marked optional.
- Low-rated dealer. Get everything in writing. Ask for an itemized OTD quote before visiting.
- Dealer markup is 14% above listing (excluding taxes). Ask for an itemized breakdown — doc fees and add-ons may be negotiable.
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Frequently Asked Questions
What fees does Phil Smith Kia charge?
Based on 17 verified out-the-door quotes collected by CarEdge, Phil Smith Kia charges a $1,540 documentation fee and averages $804 in dealer add-ons when present. Phil Smith Kia earns Transparency Grade F (41/100).
What is the doc fee at Phil Smith Kia?
Phil Smith Kia charges a typical documentation fee of $1,540. The FL average is $992. This is based on 17 verified OTD quotes in our database.
Does Phil Smith Kia add dealer add-ons?
Phil Smith Kia adds an average of $804 in dealer add-ons when present. Dealer add-ons appeared on 10 of 17 recent verified quotes. Ask for an itemized breakdown and negotiate to remove non-essential items like paint protection, nitrogen tire fill, or VIN etching.
Is Phil Smith Kia a good dealership?
Phil Smith Kia has a transparency score of 41/100, earning a Grade F. This score is based on their doc fees, add-on behavior, dealer markup, and data quality from 17 verified OTD quotes. This is below average. Consider getting quotes from other dealers in the area for comparison.
What do reviews say about Phil Smith Kia?
CarEdge reviews Phil Smith Kia on 17 verified out-the-door quotes, not star ratings. It earns transparency grade F (41/100), with a typical doc fee of $1,540 versus an FL average of $992. Dealer add-ons appeared on 10 of 17 recent quotes.
Is Phil Smith Kia a transparent Kia dealer in Lighthouse Point?
Not by CarEdge's measure. Phil Smith Kia holds CarEdge Transparency Grade F (41/100), based on 17 verified out-the-door quotes. Get every number in writing and compare quotes from other Kia dealers nearby.
How does Phil Smith Kia compare to other Kia dealers?
You can compare Phil Smith Kia's transparency score, doc fees, and add-on behavior against other Kia dealers using our comparison tool or by browsing Kia dealers in your area. Scores are based on the same methodology for every dealer. CarEdge's market guides Best Kia Dealerships in West Palm Beach, Best Kia Dealerships in Miami, Best Kia Dealerships in Florida and Best Kia Dealerships in the US rank Kia dealers on the same data.
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How we know this
Every number on this page came from a real deal.
Most dealer review sites scrape star ratings and count angry posts. We do the opposite. CarEdge shops for cars alongside thousands of real buyers every week — and when we negotiate on their behalf, we capture the full out-the-door breakdown the dealer sends back.
For Phil Smith Kia in Lighthouse Point, FL, that has meant 17 verified OTD quotes across 5 negotiated deals logged into our database. Each one is a PDF, an email, or a screenshot showing the actual doc fee, the actual add-ons, and the actual final price — not a salesperson's promise.
Fee Transparency
30%Is the doc fee reasonable, or is it just profit? We compare it against the state average — and the legal cap, where one exists.
Add-on Behavior
30%How often does the dealer stick you with mandatory add-ons like paint protection or theft deterrent — the kind you can't say no to? Add-ons the dealer discloses as optional don't count against them.
Price Accuracy
30%Does the advertised listing price match what you'd actually sign for? We flag dealers whose out-the-door diverges from the listing.
Data Quality
10%More data = more trustworthy grade. Dealers with lots of recent, complete quotes score higher for consistency.
The four numbers behind the grade
Weighted ScoreThe raw component scores — the math that led to F.
Doc Fee Comparison
Pulled 17 quote records · Grades update as new data comes in · Dealers cannot pay to change their score.
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